TipCon

TipCon members
Initials	Name	Team	Credit
AGN	Arne Nettum	AGN KHT SVV	524
ARK	Arne Kjensmo	ARK VBE	-694
BRA	Brede Arntzen	BRA MBR	-160
DSS	Dag Sverre Skjelbreid	DSS EAF	638
EAF	Edvard Fosdahl	DSS EAF	110
ESS	Espen Slette	ESS KHO	-513
JAC	Jörg Ackermann	JAC JOM	138
JBL	Jan-Bjørnar Lund	JBL TFL	276
JOM	Jomar Hønsi	JAC JOM	360
KHO	Kjetil Holstad	ESS KHO	-1562
KHT	Karl Helmer Torvmark	AGN KHT SVV	434
MBR	Morten Braathen	BRA MBR	2146
MBU	Marius Ubostad	MBU PFU	-762
MOE	Morten Engjom	MOE SHE	388
PFU	Per Øyvind Fjuk	MBU PFU	132
SHE	Sverre Hellan	MOE SHE	-79
SVV	Svein Vetti	AGN KHT SVV	217
TFL	Tako Lootsma	JBL TFL	-113
VBE	Vidar Bergli	ARK VBE	-562
PTR	Per Torstein Røine	---	---
BNY	Bjarte Løken Nystøyl	---	---
KRS	Kristoffer Starheim	---	---
TAA	Tarjei Aaberge	---	---
FHP	Fred Pettersen	---	---
JBC	Jonas Birkeland Carlsen	---	---
ROJ	Roger Johnsen	---	---
ABB	Åsmund Bakke Bø	---	---
ERN	Erling Nygaard	---	---
GJO	Geir Eivind Jonsrud	---	---
HCG	Hans Christian Glittenberg	---	---
JEA	James Elliot	---	---
SBT	Svend Bjarne Torgersen	---	---
TSO	Torbjørn Sørby	---	---
EGA	Egil Anonsen	---	---
TOS	Torgeir Sundet	---	---
AUA	Audun Andersen	---	---
HOW	Holly Watson	---	---
TIK	Tor Inge Kvaksrud	---	---
Aggregate credit			918

Arne Nettum (AGN)Active memberBetting for team AGN KHT SVV
Bet ranking \#1 23 points Profit ranking \#56307 kroner Account balance NOK 524	World Tour participation None Favourite teams Manchester United	Member since 2004 Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Arne Nettum (AGN)Active memberBetting for team AGN KHT SVV

Bet ranking

\#1 23 points

Profit ranking

\#56307 kroner

Account balance

NOK 524

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

Manchester United

Member since 2004

Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Arne Kjensmo (ARK)Active memberBetting for team ARK VBE
Bet ranking \#4 19 points Profit ranking \#38247 kroner Account balance NOK -694	World Tour participation None Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2007 Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Arne Kjensmo (ARK)Active memberBetting for team ARK VBE

Bet ranking

\#4 19 points

Profit ranking

\#38247 kroner

Account balance

NOK -694

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2007

Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Brede Arntzen (BRA)Active memberBetting for team BRA MBR
Bet ranking \#5 19 points Profit ranking \#83586 kroner Account balance NOK -160	World Tour participation None Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2023 Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Brede Arntzen (BRA)Active memberBetting for team BRA MBR

Bet ranking

\#5 19 points

Profit ranking

\#83586 kroner

Account balance

NOK -160

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2023

Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Dag Sverre Skjelbreid (DSS)Active memberBetting for team DSS EAF
Bet ranking \#7 18 points Profit ranking \#28443 kroner Account balance NOK 638	World Tour participation Roma (2024) Bilbao (2023) Leipzig (2019) Rotterdam (2018) Milano (2014) Barcelona (2012) London (2010) Favourite teams Manchester United	Member since 2008 Principal Fellow (7 trips)

Dag Sverre Skjelbreid (DSS)Active memberBetting for team DSS EAF

Bet ranking

\#7 18 points

Profit ranking

\#28443 kroner

Account balance

NOK 638

World Tour participation

Roma (2024)
Bilbao (2023)
Leipzig (2019)
Rotterdam (2018)
Milano (2014)
Barcelona (2012)
London (2010)

Favourite teams

Manchester United

Member since 2008

Principal Fellow (7 trips)

Edvard Fosdahl (EAF)Active memberBetting for team DSS EAF
Bet ranking \#7 18 points Profit ranking \#28443 kroner Account balance NOK 110	World Tour participation München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Favourite teams Manchester United Fredrikstad	Member since 2012 Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Edvard Fosdahl (EAF)Active memberBetting for team DSS EAF

Bet ranking

\#7 18 points

Profit ranking

\#28443 kroner

Account balance

NOK 110

World Tour participation

München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)

Favourite teams

Manchester United
Fredrikstad

Member since 2012

Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Espen Slette (ESS)Active member, FBEBetting for team ESS KHO
Bet ranking \#8 17 points Profit ranking \#46858 kroner Account balance NOK -513	World Tour participation Rotterdam (2018) Manchester (2016) Madrid (2015) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) London (2010) Liverpool (2009) Favourite teams Liverpool Fredrikstad	Member since 2008 Principal Fellow (7 trips)Facebook

Espen Slette (ESS)Active member, FBEBetting for team ESS KHO

Bet ranking

\#8 17 points

Profit ranking

\#46858 kroner

Account balance

NOK -513

World Tour participation

Rotterdam (2018)
Manchester (2016)
Madrid (2015)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)
London (2010)
Liverpool (2009)

Favourite teams

Liverpool
Fredrikstad

Member since 2008

Principal Fellow (7 trips)Facebook

Jörg Ackermann (JAC)Active member, CBO, TEBetting for team JAC JOM
Bet ranking \#2 22 points Profit ranking \#74769 kroner Account balance NOK 138	World Tour participation Roma (2024) Rotterdam (2018) Lisboa (2017) Manchester (2016) Madrid (2015) Milano (2014) München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) London (2010) Liverpool (2009) Berlin (2008) Barcelona (2007) London (2006) Favourite teams Bayern München	Member since 2004 Life Honorary Fellow (14 trips)Facebook

Jörg Ackermann (JAC)Active member, CBO, TEBetting for team JAC JOM

Bet ranking

\#2 22 points

Profit ranking

\#74769 kroner

Account balance

NOK 138

World Tour participation

Roma (2024)
Rotterdam (2018)
Lisboa (2017)
Manchester (2016)
Madrid (2015)
Milano (2014)
München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)
London (2010)
Liverpool (2009)
Berlin (2008)
Barcelona (2007)
London (2006)

Favourite teams

Bayern München

Member since 2004

Life Honorary Fellow (14 trips)Facebook

Jan-Bjørnar Lund (JBL)Active memberBetting for team JBL TFL
Bet ranking \#6 18 points Profit ranking \#91899 kroner Account balance NOK 276	World Tour participation None Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2007 Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Jan-Bjørnar Lund (JBL)Active memberBetting for team JBL TFL

Bet ranking

\#6 18 points

Profit ranking

\#91899 kroner

Account balance

NOK 276

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2007

Apprentice (member for more than a year)Facebook

Jomar Hønsi (JOM)Active member, CFO, CTO, TEBetting for team JAC JOM
Bet ranking \#2 22 points Profit ranking \#74769 kroner Account balance NOK 360	World Tour participation Leipzig (2019) Rotterdam (2018) Lisboa (2017) Manchester (2016) Madrid (2015) Milano (2014) München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) Liverpool (2009) Berlin (2008) Barcelona (2007) London (2006) Favourite teams Liverpool Borussia Dortmund Queens Park Rangers Sogndal Brann	Member since 2004 Life Honorary Fellow (13 trips)Facebook

Jomar Hønsi (JOM)Active member, CFO, CTO, TEBetting for team JAC JOM

Bet ranking

\#2 22 points

Profit ranking

\#74769 kroner

Account balance

NOK 360

World Tour participation

Leipzig (2019)
Rotterdam (2018)
Lisboa (2017)
Manchester (2016)
Madrid (2015)
Milano (2014)
München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)
Liverpool (2009)
Berlin (2008)
Barcelona (2007)
London (2006)

Favourite teams

Liverpool
Borussia Dortmund
Queens Park Rangers
Sogndal
Brann

Member since 2004

Life Honorary Fellow (13 trips)Facebook

Kjetil Holstad (KHO)Active memberBetting for team ESS KHO
Bet ranking \#8 17 points Profit ranking \#46858 kroner Account balance NOK -1562	World Tour participation Rotterdam (2018) Manchester (2016) Madrid (2015) München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) London (2010) Favourite teams Arsenal Rosenborg	Member since 2009 Principal Fellow (7 trips)Facebook

Kjetil Holstad (KHO)Active memberBetting for team ESS KHO

Bet ranking

\#8 17 points

Profit ranking

\#46858 kroner

Account balance

NOK -1562

World Tour participation

Rotterdam (2018)
Manchester (2016)
Madrid (2015)
München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)
London (2010)

Favourite teams

Arsenal
Rosenborg

Member since 2009

Principal Fellow (7 trips)Facebook

Karl Helmer Torvmark (KHT)Active memberBetting for team AGN KHT SVV
Bet ranking \#1 23 points Profit ranking \#56307 kroner Account balance NOK 434	World Tour participation Leipzig (2019) Rotterdam (2018) Lisboa (2017) Milano (2014) München (2013) Barcelona (2012) London (2010) Favourite teams Manchester United	Member since 2009 Principal Fellow (7 trips)Facebook

Karl Helmer Torvmark (KHT)Active memberBetting for team AGN KHT SVV

Bet ranking

\#1 23 points

Profit ranking

\#56307 kroner

Account balance

NOK 434

World Tour participation

Leipzig (2019)
Rotterdam (2018)
Lisboa (2017)
Milano (2014)
München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
London (2010)

Favourite teams

Manchester United

Member since 2009

Principal Fellow (7 trips)Facebook

Morten Braathen (MBR)Active memberBetting for team BRA MBR
Bet ranking \#5 19 points Profit ranking \#83586 kroner Account balance NOK 2146	World Tour participation Berlin (2008) Barcelona (2007) London (2006) Favourite teams Manchester United	Member since 2004 Senior Member (3 trips)

Morten Braathen (MBR)Active memberBetting for team BRA MBR

Bet ranking

\#5 19 points

Profit ranking

\#83586 kroner

Account balance

NOK 2146

World Tour participation

Berlin (2008)
Barcelona (2007)
London (2006)

Favourite teams

Manchester United

Member since 2004

Senior Member (3 trips)

Marius Ubostad (MBU)Active memberBetting for team MBU PFU
Bet ranking \#9 17 points Profit ranking \#18956 kroner Account balance NOK -762	World Tour participation Lisboa (2017) München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) Favourite teams Liverpool Odd Grenland	Member since 2011 Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Marius Ubostad (MBU)Active memberBetting for team MBU PFU

Bet ranking

\#9 17 points

Profit ranking

\#18956 kroner

Account balance

NOK -762

World Tour participation

Lisboa (2017)
München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)

Favourite teams

Liverpool
Odd Grenland

Member since 2011

Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Morten Engjom (MOE)Active memberBetting for team MOE SHE
Bet ranking \#3 22 points Profit ranking \#65943 kroner Account balance NOK 388	World Tour participation Manchester (2016) Madrid (2015) München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) London (2010) Liverpool (2009) Berlin (2008) Barcelona (2007) London (2006) Favourite teams Liverpool Ålesund	Member since 2004 Life Honorary Fellow (10 trips)Facebook

Morten Engjom (MOE)Active memberBetting for team MOE SHE

Bet ranking

\#3 22 points

Profit ranking

\#65943 kroner

Account balance

NOK 388

World Tour participation

Manchester (2016)
Madrid (2015)
München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)
London (2010)
Liverpool (2009)
Berlin (2008)
Barcelona (2007)
London (2006)

Favourite teams

Liverpool
Ålesund

Member since 2004

Life Honorary Fellow (10 trips)Facebook

Per Øyvind Fjuk (PFU)Active memberBetting for team MBU PFU
Bet ranking \#9 17 points Profit ranking \#18956 kroner Account balance NOK 132	World Tour participation None Favourite teams Liverpool	Member since 2015 Apprentice (member for more than a year)

Per Øyvind Fjuk (PFU)Active memberBetting for team MBU PFU

Bet ranking

\#9 17 points

Profit ranking

\#18956 kroner

Account balance

NOK 132

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

Liverpool

Member since 2015

Apprentice (member for more than a year)

Sverre Hellan (SHE)Active memberBetting for team MOE SHE
Bet ranking \#3 22 points Profit ranking \#65943 kroner Account balance NOK -79	World Tour participation Madrid (2015) München (2013) Dortmund (2011) Barcelona (2007) London (2006) Favourite teams Manchester United Rosenborg	Member since 2004 Fellow (5 trips)Facebook

Sverre Hellan (SHE)Active memberBetting for team MOE SHE

Bet ranking

\#3 22 points

Profit ranking

\#65943 kroner

Account balance

NOK -79

World Tour participation

Madrid (2015)
München (2013)
Dortmund (2011)
Barcelona (2007)
London (2006)

Favourite teams

Manchester United
Rosenborg

Member since 2004

Fellow (5 trips)Facebook

Svein Vetti (SVV)Active memberBetting for team AGN KHT SVV
Bet ranking \#1 23 points Profit ranking \#56307 kroner Account balance NOK 217	World Tour participation Roma (2024) Bilbao (2023) Leipzig (2019) München (2013) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2011 Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Svein Vetti (SVV)Active memberBetting for team AGN KHT SVV

Bet ranking

\#1 23 points

Profit ranking

\#56307 kroner

Account balance

NOK 217

World Tour participation

Roma (2024)
Bilbao (2023)
Leipzig (2019)
München (2013)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2011

Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Tako Lootsma (TFL)Active memberBetting for team JBL TFL
Bet ranking \#6 18 points Profit ranking \#91899 kroner Account balance NOK -113	World Tour participation München (2013) Dortmund (2011) London (2010) Liverpool (2009) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2008 Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Tako Lootsma (TFL)Active memberBetting for team JBL TFL

Bet ranking

\#6 18 points

Profit ranking

\#91899 kroner

Account balance

NOK -113

World Tour participation

München (2013)
Dortmund (2011)
London (2010)
Liverpool (2009)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2008

Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Vidar Bergli (VBE)Active memberBetting for team ARK VBE
Bet ranking \#4 19 points Profit ranking \#38247 kroner Account balance NOK -562	World Tour participation Dortmund (2011) Barcelona (2007) Favourite teams Leeds	Member since 2006 Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Vidar Bergli (VBE)Active memberBetting for team ARK VBE

Bet ranking

\#4 19 points

Profit ranking

\#38247 kroner

Account balance

NOK -562

World Tour participation

Dortmund (2011)
Barcelona (2007)

Favourite teams

Leeds

Member since 2006

Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Per Torstein Røine (PTR)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Roma (2024) Bilbao (2023) Leipzig (2019) Rotterdam (2018) Lisboa (2017) Madrid (2015) Milano (2014) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) London (2010) Berlin (2008) Barcelona (2007) London (2006) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2004 Life Honorary Fellow (13 trips)Facebook

Per Torstein Røine (PTR)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Roma (2024)
Bilbao (2023)
Leipzig (2019)
Rotterdam (2018)
Lisboa (2017)
Madrid (2015)
Milano (2014)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)
London (2010)
Berlin (2008)
Barcelona (2007)
London (2006)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2004

Life Honorary Fellow (13 trips)Facebook

Bjarte Løken Nystøyl (BNY)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Lisboa (2017) Manchester (2016) München (2013) Favourite teams Liverpool Skarbøvik	Member since 2012 Senior Member (3 trips)Facebook

Bjarte Løken Nystøyl (BNY)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Lisboa (2017)
Manchester (2016)
München (2013)

Favourite teams

Liverpool
Skarbøvik

Member since 2012

Senior Member (3 trips)Facebook

Kristoffer Starheim (KRS)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2010 Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Kristoffer Starheim (KRS)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2010

Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Tarjei Aaberge (TAA)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2010 Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Tarjei Aaberge (TAA)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2010

Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Fred Pettersen (FHP)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Liverpool (2009) Favourite teams Liverpool	Member since 2008 Apprentice (1 trip)

Fred Pettersen (FHP)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Liverpool (2009)

Favourite teams

Liverpool

Member since 2008

Apprentice (1 trip)

Jonas Birkeland Carlsen (JBC)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Leipzig (2019) Favourite teams Tottenham Vålerenga	Member since 2018 Apprentice (1 trip)

Jonas Birkeland Carlsen (JBC)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Leipzig (2019)

Favourite teams

Tottenham
Vålerenga

Member since 2018

Apprentice (1 trip)

Roger Johnsen (ROJ)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Liverpool (2009) Barcelona (2007) Favourite teams Manchester United Rosenborg	Member since 2006 Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Roger Johnsen (ROJ)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Liverpool (2009)
Barcelona (2007)

Favourite teams

Manchester United
Rosenborg

Member since 2006

Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Åsmund Bakke Bø (ABB)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2011 Senior Member (3 trips)Facebook

Åsmund Bakke Bø (ABB)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2011

Senior Member (3 trips)Facebook

Erling Nygaard (ERN)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Lisboa (2017) Barcelona (2012) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2012 Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Erling Nygaard (ERN)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Lisboa (2017)
Barcelona (2012)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2012

Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Geir Eivind Jonsrud (GJO)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Barcelona (2012) Berlin (2008) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2007 Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Geir Eivind Jonsrud (GJO)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Barcelona (2012)
Berlin (2008)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2007

Member Group Staff (2 trips)Facebook

Hans Christian Glittenberg (HCG)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Barcelona (2012) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2012 Apprentice (1 trip)Facebook

Hans Christian Glittenberg (HCG)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Barcelona (2012)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2012

Apprentice (1 trip)Facebook

James Elliot (JEA)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation None Favourite teams Portsmouth	Member since 2013 Apprentice (member for more than a year)

James Elliot (JEA)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

Portsmouth

Member since 2013

Apprentice (member for more than a year)

Svend Bjarne Torgersen (SBT)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) London (2010) Favourite teams Liverpool	Member since 2010 Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Svend Bjarne Torgersen (SBT)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)
London (2010)

Favourite teams

Liverpool

Member since 2010

Distinguished Member (4 trips)Facebook

Torbjørn Sørby (TSO)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Dortmund (2011) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2011 Apprentice (1 trip)Facebook

Torbjørn Sørby (TSO)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Dortmund (2011)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2011

Apprentice (1 trip)Facebook

Egil Anonsen (EGA)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation München (2013) Barcelona (2012) Dortmund (2011) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2011 Senior Member (3 trips)Facebook

Egil Anonsen (EGA)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

München (2013)
Barcelona (2012)
Dortmund (2011)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2011

Senior Member (3 trips)Facebook

Torgeir Sundet (TOS)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Berlin (2008) London (2006) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2004 Member Group Staff (2 trips)

Torgeir Sundet (TOS)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Berlin (2008)
London (2006)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2004

Member Group Staff (2 trips)

Audun Andersen (AUA)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation None Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2006 Apprentice (member for more than a year)

Audun Andersen (AUA)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2006

Apprentice (member for more than a year)

Holly Watson (HOW)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation Liverpool (2009) Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2008 Apprentice (1 trip)

Holly Watson (HOW)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

Liverpool (2009)

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2008

Apprentice (1 trip)

Tor Inge Kvaksrud (TIK)Support
Betting statistics not available…	World Tour participation None Favourite teams does not care…	Member since 2003 Apprentice (member for more than a year)

Tor Inge Kvaksrud (TIK)Support

Betting statistics not available…

World Tour participation

None

Favourite teams

does not care…

Member since 2003

Apprentice (member for more than a year)